Nope. That beating dogs with sticks things is something you twisted out of context, because you are full of bizarro manure. LIAR. I'll just copy a direct quote or two or three or four or five or six... HOWE many direct quotes would you like??? Get a stick 30- or 40-inches long. You can have a helper wield the stick, or do it yourself. Tougher, less tractable dogs may require you to progress to striking them more sharply. Repeat, varying how hard you hit the dog, Now you are ready to progress to what most people think of as force-fetching: the ear pinch. Make the dog's need to stop the pinching so urgent that resisting your will fades in importance. but will squeal, thrash around, and direct their efforts to escaping the ear pinch You can press the dog's ear with a shotshell instead of your thumb; even get a studded collar and pinch the ear against that Say fetch while pressing the dummy against its lips and pinching ITS ear. if the dog still does not open its mouth, get out the shotshell. Try pinching the ear between the _meta_l casing and the collar, even the buckle on the collar. Persist! Eventually, the dog will give in
http://www.oakhillkennel.com/library/force/force1.html http://www.oakhillkennel.com/library/force/force2.html While force-fetching is now complete, training has become more varied and interesting and we are sure you will want to continue. Amy Dahl LIES with a straight face and says: I don't beat dogs, twist ears, or pinch toes. For the benefit of anyone who is in doubt, and who chooses not to read the article, there is NO mention in it of twisting ears. I would never slap a dog. I would never advise anyone to slap a dog. I do not believe there is a single circumstance, ever, where slapping a dog is anything but destructive. Any refusals are corrected with the ear pinch. When performance is smooth, the stick can be added just as in the fetch from a sitting position. If the previous steps have been carefully done, the dog will soon be lunging eagerly for each dummy as soon as IT sees it AND HERE'S THE REST OF THE ROUNDUP, the posters our own respected lyingdoc dermer, assholeciate professor of behavior at U of Wisc., (former Master Of Deception, till he got bagged for lying,) who RECENTLY endorsed the koehler method: Diane Blackman, Yes, diane... She's as confused and deceitful as they come. She knits cover-ups for pronged choke collars so she can train dogs illegally on akc showgrounds, and so that people won't SEE the prongs and think the less of her... She twists words better than you can, BECAUSE SHE HASN'T GOT BAGGED FOR LYING, she's too CLEVER for that... She's got a dog who's been a chronic puller for five years, and she day boards her dogs because she can't trust them at home alone. Her _link_s page has lots of lousy advice, but diane won't edit the lousy ones that teach HURTING dogs, because she says she doesn't know enough about training to discern good from bad information... Whaddaya thaink of that? Bob Maida, What advice? Don't let him do that? Killfiles is all he writes about. He can't talk dog training because he is a violent dog trainer. If he opens his yap, I shove his foot in it for him and hammer on top of his head till he's craping toenails... He's no dog trainer. He said he recommends cindymoron's Website to his ''students'' and they tell him HOWE much they've benefited from it... cindymron's site has instructions for sticking your fingers down puppies throats to choke them out of mouthing, kneeing the dog in the chest, shocking, throwing the dog down by his ears and climbing on him like a wild animal, pinching and twisting ears, choking, jerking, and sticking dog's heads under water you've filled into a hole he's dug to break dogs of digging. I guess boob's student's only learned the jerking and choking from him... Your pal boob had been begging his ''teacher'' cap'n fagotty to debate me here, and smarten me up. He sent his little girl to write me a threatening letter saying she'd sue me if I told the truth here... Then, your pal boob suggested there would be a motorcycle gang paying me a little visit... Do you ride, lyindoc? I may be able to get you a good deal on some dead bikers machines. Cindy Tittle Moore, A true sadist. She gets pleasure for dominating and hurting dogs. Read her forced fetch page, that will show you HOWE excited she gets just at the thought of hurting dogs. Did you see my STAY-OUT-OF-JAIL CHALLENGE to cindymoron? Here's the deal... We get her to force fetch train three dogs in front of a child's playground, and I'll train three protection dogs in the same site, and we'll see who the children are disturbed by, and who the parents are going to call the cops on... And then I'll show up as expert witness for the prosecution, and we'll demonstrate her forced fetch in front of a criminal judge and jury... HOWE'S that for a FAIR TEST??? Denna Pace, Says she sees a lot of value in koehler... She's got PLENTY of problems with her own dogs running away and being disobedient. John Richardson, He only hurts dogs to save them from the needle. He's as abusive and immature as they come. He's a clone of dogman. The dogs he can't hurt into being friendly, he KILLS in the shelter he HELPS in. Unlike yourself, he's too stupid to be evil. He's just doing what koehler taught him. Ludwig Smith, Another koehler trainer. He's too cowardly to come out and say what he believes. He throws around lots of non advice, and then tells us we can get more help in koehler's books. He's got a _link_ to cindymoron's page on his sig file... Janet Boss, Jerks dogs around on pronged collars to make them friendly. She's as incompetent a creature as G-D could possibly create. I'll be throwing THAT in HIS face when I get there... She has no business telling people to kill their dogs because their only option is to jerk the dog around and keep him confined for the rest of his life. See the thread ''interested in hearing'' and you'll see for yourself HOWE you bums mishandle and kill dogs because you don't have any IDEAS, and can't outwit a puppydog... Take a look at the thread interested in hearing where your pal janet boss overlooks TWO SHOCK CONTAINMENT DEVICES, and tells the people to jerk and choke the dog on a pronged choke collar, and lock the dog up at any time he can't be jerked and choked.... The consensus of opinion of our EXPERTS here was to KILL THE DOG TO BE FAIR. Susan Fraser, susan twists and pinches ears and toes and shocks and chokes dogs on pronged choke collars. But she doesn't hurt them. Avrama Gingold, Our Professora... She got her damned teeth knocked down her throat when her dog finally figured out HOWE to hurt her back, and make it look like an accident. That's called allelomimetic behavior. avrama had a habit of jerking him to make him heel or come, but always made it look like the dog did it to himself. Dogs are smart. Don't take my word for it, that's in the Wits' End Dog Training Method manual. and Terri Willis. The psycho clown. She wants to hurt dogs because she is compensating for her inferiority complex. She WANTS TO HURT DOGS. HOWE does varying HOWE you are HURTING the dog make it more INTERESTING? You can't do something that's WRONG, right, NO MATTER HOWE hard you try. Dogs DIE because of inappropriate handling and training techniques. There is NEVER any need to jerk and choke and shock or pinch and twist dog's body parts or beat dogs with sticks to MOTIVATE them.
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