We have a service for 12. This pattern of the Francis I is much more detailed than the newer patterns that are sold today. Please e-mail us for details. Nancy and Michael Feldman Francis I is still sold today. I received 12 place settings for my wedding last year. It is more detailed than the more recently designed patterns, but it is still in production.  An interesting note, I read that sterling patterns are never *really* discontinued, because they always have the die. If they haven't been producing a pattern in a while, you may have to wait until they have enough requests to make it worth their while. Also, Waterford never discontinues a crystal pattern, this does not apply to the Marquis line. This is one of the main reasons I chose Waterford, I will always be able to get replacements. Melinda