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the crop with Subaru, Honda, Mazda and then Nissan taking the first five spots. (Photo: Trevor Hofmann, Canadian Auto Press)
 
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seen all the Japs' with bumper holes on them after a slight scratching? Imagine a head on or rear on collision?..., I think everyone got the picture now, the air bag won't be of any value unless your car is solid in the first place. Fiberglass shell won't protect you in any situation. in 1999, an SUV hit my 91 Jetta's front bumper from side on at nearly 60mph. my front bumper flied 30 feet away. Afterward, just a simple pull at a body shop, everything got restored. Can you imagine how a Jap car will look like after such an incident? Sure, they can give you 35 - 40 mpg, but at what cost? - your life in case of an accident! cheers, John Rutledge <john.rutledge@remove_this.att.net wrote in message I think it is cyclical and maybe not possible to reliably compare German made vs. Japanese made vs etc. anymore. 燤y '95 Accord was American made and excellent quality. 燤y '03 Accord is Japanese made and quality is a lot lower. 燤y '91 Mexican made Golf had initial quality problems but those were sorted a long time ago and it is a solid car. 燤y '69 German made bug - that I don't own any longer - is still on the road and never had a peep of trouble. Harry Wilke < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it wrote in message Do the Germans or Japanese Make Better Cars? by Trevor Hofmann, auto123.com / Canadian Auto Press (December 1, 2003) German Study Turns Up Unexpected Response German cars are better right? While that might hold some credence among luxury car buyers, according to a consumer satisfaction survey compiled by German automobile association ADAC, together with the Center for Automotive Research (CAR), the majority of the fatherland's car owners disagree. Altogether more than 38,000 German vehicle owners were asked how
 
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Altogether more than 38,000 German vehicle owners were asked how
 
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would never buy either of these vehicles. Notice how the Jetta seems to be the bar for the small car class? I mean, the Focus, Corolla, and Civic all have been redesigned since the intro of the A4 Jetta, and isn't it interesting how they all have similar lines to the Jetta? The Golf...It set the bar for a small hatchback...I mean, Honda, Toyota and Mazda all copied the concept. Passat is the nicest family sedan in it's class. It is a true family sedan . The Camry is a boring, cookie cutter 4-door...The Accord...It looks ugly and is rather gutless. The Mazda6...it's just a Taurus in drag. - Peter Rob Guenther < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it wrote in message It's funny, cuz I know a guy who worked at the Honda plant in Ontario, and said he won't buy a Honda. Yah Toyotas are reliable, but they seem to cheap and tinny... VWs are solid, their panel gaps are perfect, their interiors are out of a luxury car... come on. Its a car you WANT to drive. VW's problems are supplier related. This is even a bigger problem with American cars, the parts are cheap... German car manfs have to skip on stuff or else their prices will probably go up way more. I would saw Audi/MB/BMW break down more because of the absurd level of technology that isn't really tried and true in them. At least they aren't afraid of the bad rep to try it out. AdamN < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it wrote in message As a lover of German cars and a driver of a 2001 GTI I can honestly say that I totally agree with the JD Powers results mostly. Toyota truly is the cr?me da la cr?me of quality even if some of their models are a bit boring. The others like Honda as well. VW's have really have major quality issues but I bought my VW because I like the personality and slightly more distinct looks over the cookie cutter looks of many of the Japanese models. The VW's fit and finish are also top notch at least initially. But ask me what to buy if ya want good reliable well assembled not in the shop all the time
 
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for front, side, and rear impact. Toyota and Honda tend to do ok in frontal, but fail miserably in in side and rear impact. - Peter Adam < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it wrote in message I'd bet you most Toyotas would perform nearly as well if not equal to most VW's. Cars today have to meet certain standards and I've seen the Jetta crash tests as well as ones from the jap manufacturers and overall all the front ends pretty much disintegrate. Passenger injury on the cars varies but the differences in body structure integrity isn't that different. This isn't a difference where the Jetta suffers practically no damaged while the Corolla is totalled or anything. I do remember the Jetta not doing well in the side impact ratings compared to many of its counterparts and I remember the Beetle doing surprisingly excellent its front impact tests but not that much better then the Civic. Front end in both cases was trashed. Adam In article <kFwzb.6569$ This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it _link_.net, This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it says... well, you won't see the different until you got in a collision. Haven't you seen all the Japs' with bumper holes on them after a slight scratching? Imagine a head on or rear on collision?..., I think everyone got the picture now, the air bag won't be of any value unless your car is solid in the first place. Fiberglass shell won't protect you in any situation. in 1999, an SUV hit my 91 Jetta's front bumper from side on at nearly 60mph. my front bumper flied 30 feet away. Afterward, just a simple pull at a body shop, everything got restored. Can you imagine how a Jap car will look like after such an incident? Sure, they can give you 35 - 40 mpg, but at what cost? - your life in case of an accident! cheers,
 
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